Shared by Daniel If Sterling got Turing wrong, then maybe my dissertation is important after all. Here’s what AI looks like in spime-world: ubiquitous wrangling. Bruce Sterling: Yeah, well, unless they’re going to invent mechanical eyeballs that those machines can fit onto, it’s going to be tough. OK, I’m a skeptic, but I’m prepared to be surprised. I’m also a skeptic in Artificial Intelligence, but as soon as they bring me an AI that can write a decent novel, I’m going to get it and review that book. [laughs] Tish Shute: It’s interesting. Re AI, I’m totally in agreement with you. In terms of the way computers turned out, it wasn’t AI per se that they turned out to be good for, not in the way everyone had dreamed of it, rather it was the harvesting of human intelligence that turned out to be the big thing. But what is interesting is that despite all of that, AI or machine learning, as it is now called, permeates our whole society now from the stock market to how many businesses make many of their decisions. Bruce Sterling: Well, there’s a lot of so-called collective intelligence. But Marvin Minsky-style hard AI, no way. Alan Turing-style AI, forget about that. Tish Shute: Yeah. So, that’s an interesting comparison with the HMDs. Bruce Sterling: People stretch the definitions. It’s like, well, my car engine is Artificial Intelligence. Yeah, so is your wall transistor. No, I don’t really think so.